Post by rabbitrabbit on Nov 22, 2011 4:52:00 GMT -5
So I listened to the BFM album (without buying it of course), and realized the very big flaw with the argument that Adam would have been proud of these songs at one point (and the argument that this is an interesting historical artifact of his song-writing). I don't think in many cases that these are the songs he helped write as he envisioned them at all. The circle, pop goes the camera, crawl thru fire, sound very different from the myspace and earlier posted versions and live zodiac versions, and I gotta say, it's not an improvement. Pop goes the camera in particular has just been butchered. Seeing how sucky the production is on the songs I recognize, makes me think we are getting some poor Frankenstein's monster version of the original songs Adam demoed.
So anyone wanting to get an idea of the songs as Adam first envisioned them, stick with the rough drafts we got long ago, not some other inferior producer's attempt to finish them, and in some cases, completely reshape them in a way Adam might never have wanted. This is not to downplay Adam's vocals or some of the charm of the original songs, but seriously, the production pretty much destroys the latter and the ever present annoying guitar takes away from the former IMO.
In my mind this is a clear cut example of why Adam so clearly wanted to stop this release for artistic integrity reasons. It's not just that the work was never finished and not his current sound. But that it could be finished BADLY and his name would be associated with it.
Rabbit, I SO totally agree with everything in your post. Not being an Adam completist, I'll find it easy to live with the earlier versions of these songs. THOSE are the songs I'll accept as part of Adam's journey...as something he tried and rejected pretty early on as conveying his vision as an artist.
I like rock music--but I'm sorry, this just sounds so dated to me.
Part of what I LOVE about Adam in that he FINALLY offered something I was looking for but couldn't articulate: NEW. FRESH. After the monotonous routine of listening to classic rock stations for DECADES and occasional pop (back when pop was pretty decent), I was mostly liking alternative.
But Adam just filled an unarticulated void for me. And I want to continue filling that space with HIS MUSIC--songs that he has at least some control over. BFM is NOT THAT. IMO, YMMV, all the usual disclaimers!
I am so pleased to see that, despite all the promotion, despite all the deceptive marketing, BFM does not seem to be going anywhere. Earlier today, the second day of its release, Amazon ranked it at #144. Now, it is #155. The single, now in release for a couple of weeks at least, right, is dead.
I am not happy that the CD is appearing, sometimes prominently, in some retail locations. But, it seems that some Glamberts are doing their best to make sure it is not prominent for long.
All in all, this seems like a failed attempt to cash in on Adam. How much did they invest in getting this to market, getting it in stores, getting it displayed prominently? And how little has it actually sold? I am thinking that with production, marketing, and legal costs, they are gonna lose their shirts. I couldn't be happier.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. - Gandhi
You do not have to shout but if you want to chat....
belle: Arttu and Sauli did the 'friendship lift', flower - S&N are doing their last routine again
Nov 30, 2013 14:18:11 GMT -5
belle: flowers ofc.... so happy for them
Nov 30, 2013 14:20:11 GMT -5
blueberry: Yay yay yay!
Nov 30, 2013 14:23:13 GMT -5
stampsgal: Hope they put those up on video....I would be so grateful.
Nov 30, 2013 14:23:54 GMT -5
stampsgal: Well ....Belle....MANY, MANY THANKS for your gift of time and energy to help " the blind, and non speakers" move through this journey as if we had eyes and the ability to understand all the Finnish videos and media.
Nov 30, 2013 14:31:22 GMT -5
stampsgal: Wishing you sweet dreams...versus up until 2 am translating and sharing new media.
Nov 30, 2013 14:32:45 GMT -5
ljsmack: My thanks as well. Adam will look long and hard to find a sweeter, cuter, more animated, positive boyfriend than Sauli. Loved following his skating,
Nov 30, 2013 14:45:39 GMT -5
blueberry: First performance on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZJZujqWHt4&feature=youtu.be
Nov 30, 2013 15:48:03 GMT -5
grandduchesspf: Wow did he ever deserve the win. To from barely being able to stand up on skates to this performance, just wow. Can't wait for the rest of the youtubes!!!!! Thank you Blueberry!
Nov 30, 2013 16:33:37 GMT -5
theheat101418: I would die if he had a irish accent...
Nov 30, 2013 16:41:05 GMT -5
mimijoy: So happy for Sauli . Amazed at his skating skills.
Nov 30, 2013 17:31:04 GMT -5
vivlite: SAULI AND NEA WON?????? I just got home..thinking of SANE..YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY!!! So thrilled..sorry I missed the play by play with you all. Hoping for vids..oh puleeze!!!
Nov 30, 2013 17:51:49 GMT -5
belle: Yeah, he did great, really great - so happy for him!
Nov 30, 2013 18:01:44 GMT -5
belle: the official links are in my post on page 6
Nov 30, 2013 18:04:16 GMT -5
vivlite: Just got back to the shoutbox..I had to go to IE to access the vids..my ad-blocker was not letting me into the sites, but I got to see everything. I cried. Thank YOU for all your DOI accounts, Belle! I do believe Sauli was most improved.
Nov 30, 2013 19:58:25 GMT -5
irish1139: Did he really appear in the supposedly classiest club in Miami looking like that. Is Adam all right? Doesn't seem like he would do that. Is he well?
Nov 30, 2013 21:43:50 GMT -5
melliemom: I think Adam is getting into his rock mode,maybe for Album 3 pop rock??.. reminded me of George Michael...IRISH I love seeing you here..
Nov 30, 2013 22:54:34 GMT -5
blueberry: One more DOI Youtube for those who are interested : The show starter with Sauli, Nea, Arttu, Eve & Marigold Ice Unity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYn6rwlLC44&feature=youtu.be
Dec 1, 2013 1:36:34 GMT -5
dancygeorgia: Who won DOI, or is it not yet decided?
Dec 1, 2013 4:49:42 GMT -5
QueeenAl: Sauli and Nea won!!!! YAY
Dec 1, 2013 5:17:03 GMT -5