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Post by myspencer50 on Feb 20, 2012 19:07:36 GMT -5
LOL! Something weird going on with the adds today. Hardly an stations adding. I wonder if it is because of the holiday? I think you may be right. I forgot it was a holiday in all the excitement! We will know tomorrow. Ya, only 50% of the HAC stations reported today!Rhiannsu, good points, all of them. I do want to add that Adam also has respect of his peers too, like other artists and producers. I still believe 2012 will be a big year for him! |
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Post by frecklesexual on Feb 20, 2012 19:49:12 GMT -5
I don't really mean this but in light of the awesome Queen news imma say it anyway: Fuck US Radio. my thoughts exactly Jazz! the reality is Adam can have a massively successful career without U.S. radio. He gets played all over the world and if the jackwagons in this country can't recognize what a talented artist he is then fuck them. I have no worries for Adam's career because of his international audience. if he were a regular idol artist i'd be terrified for him right now but he's gonna be fine. |
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Post by murly on Feb 20, 2012 20:24:33 GMT -5
I'm wondering if the whole plan might be to launch him internationally first and foremost, and then assume that U.S. radio can't ignore him when every other country is going crazy for him. As people have pointed out, Gaga's success began internationally. When someone is considered too "out there" for U.S. radio, the approval of the rest of the world seems to have to come first. I personally don't consider Adam very "out there" but let's face it--his sexual orientation may be what's causing the hesitation here in the states. Sad but very possible.
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Post by myspencer50 on Feb 20, 2012 21:17:51 GMT -5
Adam wants to be a Pop star here! And he wants to be big! So in order for him to fulfill his dreams, it has to happen here too!  |
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Post by rihannsu on Feb 20, 2012 21:50:44 GMT -5
Adam wants to be a Pop star here! And he wants to be big! So in order for him to fulfill his dreams, it has to happen here too! And I believe it WILL but I am not at all surprised that it won't be FIRST. I think he will have to reach that point of inevitability much like Gaga. They didn't play the shit out of her right off the bat and she really did get huge overseas before she really took off here. I have said from the beginning that I think that is the path that would be necessary for Adam as well. I remember a Scissor Sisters interview about the time they were releasing "Night Work" where they were asked about why they seemed to be bigger overseas than here and Jake Shears said flat out that the gay aspect was a huge detriment to getting radio play in the States and also mentioned his hope that Adam Lambert's impact was helping to change that. But it is NOT happening over night. Ferras also commented that his record label warned him that being out and open would impact his career. He said also that Adam was making an impact towards changing that but it would be a slow process. I think that it will be like a snowball rolling downhill and that more and more artists will take the chance on being open because Adam has opened the door somewhat. Another artist I saw make comments about Adam having an effect on this was Ari Gold who also felt his audience was limited to the "gay" market because of the prejudices in the industry. I think RCA knew this from the get go and Adam actually vaguely referenced it in an interview where he commented about both the record company and his management company not really knowing quite how to launch an openly gay artist and that they were all kind of feeling their way in the dark. Wish I could remember what interview it was from but it was around the time of the management change when the press was trying to get him to dish dirt on 19. |
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Post by myspencer50 on Feb 20, 2012 22:08:40 GMT -5
I agree that it will happen, Rhiannsu. I am optimistic that this is the album that will do it. I mean with the respect he has of the media, his peers, producers, etc. at some point, the radio PDs are going to start looking like idiots! To many of us, they already do! I hope they end up clamoring to get on the Adam train and will have kiss his a$$ to get radio visits! I also don't think this will be the only one off with Queen either. I expect to see a few, maybe even one or two in the US. |
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Post by lizziegs on Feb 21, 2012 7:00:21 GMT -5
Rihannasu, I so agree with you. In particular I see the Queen news as a one way ticket out of the stranglehold of the typical post idol career ie everything dependent on PDs at US radio, begging for the "boot song" and any morning tv show that will have them - and if that doesn't work.....a complete disappearance from sight. Yes, Adam wants pop and that means radio (and I think he will get it!) but singing with Queen is somewhat equivalent to JHud's Oscar. It is an unarguable industry stamp of global approval and mega talent that no amount of Idol Or radio pettiness and jealousies can do anything about.....he simply moves out of reach. Note there is a reason the successful alums have no presence/ fans on Idol blogs.....they have escaped the clutches!
Adam's name will now be forever linked around the world with Freddie Mercury - you cannot buy that and he didn't need US radio to get it.
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Post by frecklesexual on Feb 21, 2012 7:20:03 GMT -5
the song went totally negative for the first time today. I don't get it. The song was doing okay until he did the U.S. promo.... wtf is that about?
God I really hate U.S. radio right now >:(
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Post by lizziegs on Feb 21, 2012 7:30:51 GMT -5
Actually his spins increased by 3,,,
Slim pickings admittedly
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Post by melliemom on Feb 21, 2012 7:43:31 GMT -5
IMHO ,the DJs that Adam talked to really appreciate his talent and like him a great deal as a person. Unfortunately they take their orders from above,LIke ClearChannel. I think the more we request the better Adam is is spite of the above.They can never say that Adam doesn't have many requests.. therefore we aren't playing him.
Repeating myself.. but here goes anyway.. Every time we get down,something amazing happens.. Like QUEEN with Adam at the biggest tribute venue for Freddie. Who gets that kind of a gig.... ADAM!
To add..Adam is well on his way to being an International superstar.. no worries here.
Radio play gives you publicity , Adam is his own publicity machine,par none. Selling singles is not very profitable,touring gives you money and selling your brand/merchandise gives you cash. Just imagine how many people from all over the world will go to an Adam concert ,especially after QUEEN.
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Post by FanOfTheMan on Feb 21, 2012 10:04:32 GMT -5
I don't really mean this but in light of the awesome Queen news imma say it anyway: Fuck US Radio. I can't say that. I think radio play is very important for Adam. I think radio plays a large part in an artist being nominated and receiving awards to say nothing of sales. Radio play puts an artist in front of those who might never see or hear of him otherwise. Also helps put butts in the concert seats. I want massive radio play for Adam this Trespassing era, or at least WWFM numbers. 8-) |
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Post by myspencer50 on Feb 21, 2012 10:48:12 GMT -5
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31 32 ADAM LAMBERT Better Than I Know M... 503 504 -1 2.176
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37 44 ADAM LAMBERT Better Than I Know M... 161 191 -30 1.276
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Post by stardust on Feb 21, 2012 11:37:05 GMT -5
Radioplay is important because it is what Adam wants and it is still the best way to sell songs and albums. But, I am beginning to wonder if rihannsu is right that he may need to blow-up overseas first.
I don't think that BTIKM is a "bad" song, but radio doesn't seem to like it. The 2nd single will be telling. It it blows up, then maybe it is the song. If not, then something else is going on. Maybe "Trespassing" is more appropriate than we knew.
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Post by JazzRocks on Feb 21, 2012 11:39:47 GMT -5
As far as hitting it big internationally - it doesn't seem to be happening with BTIKM YET. (emphasis on "yet") Surprisingly he's not setting Canada or Aus. on fire so far this era & the UK is a big question mark at this point. I hope the Queen gig will help him there. Where's BTIKM charting - Hungary, Finland, South Africa...anywhere else? I'm talking strictly about radio & sales. I realize he is known around the world & is frequently referred to as a global superstar. That's all good, but apparently he needs radio to be the pop star he wants to be.
Here's a question I've had for awhile: My understanding is that many young people don't even listen to radio anymore. I don't know anyone who does (except a few Sirius listeners). So how can radio still make or break an artist?
Disclaimer - I am not angsting....just want to understand the entire situation better than I do.
ETA: His NE radio tour was with DJs not PDs. He always makes a great impression but no matter how much they liked him they don't have the power to add or even play BTIKM do they?
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Post by tigerlily on Feb 21, 2012 11:47:40 GMT -5
I don't really mean this but in light of the awesome Queen news imma say it anyway: Fuck US Radio. I can't say that. I think radio play is very important for Adam. I think radio plays a large part in an artist being nominated and receiving awards to say nothing of sales. Radio play puts an artist in front of those who might never see or hear of him otherwise. Also helps put butts in the concert seats. I want massive radio play for Adam this Trespassing era, or at least WWFM numbers. 8-) I agree. I also don't believe the strategy is to break this song or Adam internationally first. BTIKM isn't doing well in Canada or Europe either. RCA doesn't have to take the "Gaga approach" to Adam and his music here. Adam and his music have already been accepted here in the US, he just needs a good single that listeners want to hear and respond to by buying it. The problems with BTIKM have to do with the song itself and also RCAs roll-out. The problem isn't homophobia or the US radio stations. For the past week, the signs have pointed to RCA pulling their support for this single and moving on to the next one. It is for the best. There is no reason to invest any more time and money in a song that was going to be a moderate HAC hit, at best. Come back in a few weeks with a song that is more geared towards pop radio and put all the money and time into it! That's not true. Statistics came out that showed just the opposite. Radio is still very important as far as overall sales numbers for singles. |
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