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Post by adamme on Mar 11, 2012 21:41:05 GMT -5
Okay, so after I saw my post here quoted by the @cwnewser dude, I tweeted him on a whim to say that I was glad I could clarify things, lol. Well, he tweeted me a little while ago and said he wanted to explain a bit about last night via DM. We had a really nice convo and he seems like a cool guy, actually. I'll summarize what he told me: He says his friend is the GM at the club, and CWNewser and TMZ and other paps knew Adam was there last night. When CWNewser's friend tweeted that Adam was leaving with the GM's boyfriend, CWN RT'd the tweet not thinking much of it. He says he didn't mean to imply that there was anything going on, and by the time he started to get bombarded with tweets from glamberts, it was too late. He tried to clarify (this is true) but he says his twitter was flooded with outraged fans. (Oh dear, I wish people would be a bit more careful before going into Exterminate mode, but yeah...) CWN says he's not a pap but rather a reporter and really didn't intend to shit-stir or cast Adam in a bad light last night. As for reporting on Adam's hotel, he says that the info was already public and that this sort of info is shared on a regular basis. Also that Hotel Monaco had security so Adam wasn't at any risk. (Not 100% sure I agree with this, but I don't really pay a lot of attention to celeb gossip sites. Also it's not so much a security issue as it is a privacy thing, what with the potential for stalker fans, but ok whatever.) He says that this gave some fans today an opportunity to see him today if they missed his appearance at Cobalt last night. (Where the fuck are those fans and why haven't we seen those pics, hmmm?) He says that one of Adam's people reached out to him and he knows Adam is cool with him and understands there was no ill intent. CWN says he'll probably see Adam tomorrow and to keep our eye out for pics/vid on TMZ from the club appearance and airport. So there ya go. My take-- the celeb game is a business like any other. I'm sure Adam's club appearance was a paid venture, and getting seen/papped is part and parcel of it. Goes with the territory, and Adam (and we) are mostly lucky that he's a hoopla magnet and people care enough to put him in the gossip rags. As we know to our sorrow, Adam can stay under the radar and out of sight when he wants to. Last night wasn't one of those times. And from my very limited interaction with CWN, he seems sincere and without ill intent. NoAngel, thank for sharing this. Not sure if it's rookie mistakes or not... I guess my only objection was when he mention about Adam's hotel. Yes, it's a public knowledge among the reporter and paps and I'm pretty sure that all paps knew about it but they didn't disclose it on tweeter. They probably share the infor over the phone. And the fact that the hotel has their own security doesn't make it right for him to disclose that information .. there could be stalkers, etc. Guess if he's still lurking in Atop.. there's a line that he shouldn't cross and he'll learn. |
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Post by rad1109 on Mar 11, 2012 21:41:17 GMT -5
ETA: Thanks, NoAngel. Poor guy. Stung by a horde of angry Glamberts. I was checking his @ replies both right after he posted and this morning and I think both he and Toby were greatly exaggerating the 'horde of angry glamberts'. There were two or three 'huh are you trying to start something?' comments, and several 'lol, no that's his boyfriend' ones, but not a pile-on IMHO. LOL I do notice these 'reporter' are very sensitive on twitter. Then they get defensive, say something nasty and start a storm. At one point I kind of thought TK and this guy were one & the same.....still wonder. On the other hand, I cannot believe after all this time the angry glamberts have not learned not to engage. I do think it is much, much better and therefore am surprised, but it get them more hits & RTs. |
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Post by aloha on Mar 11, 2012 21:45:40 GMT -5
I was checking his @ replies both right after he posted and this morning and I think both he and Toby were greatly exaggerating the 'horde of angry glamberts'. There were two or three 'huh are you trying to start something?' comments, and several 'lol, no that's his boyfriend' ones, but not a pile-on IMHO. LOL I do notice these 'reporter' are very sensitive on twitter. Then they get defensive, say something nasty and start a storm. At one point I kind of thought TK and this guy were one & the same.....still wonder. On the other hand, I cannot believe after all this time the angry glamberts have not learned not to engage. I do think it is much, much better and therefore am surprised, but it get them more hits & RTs. I think a lot of people are not familiar with the reach of twitter... I know I'm sometimes shocked by it. |
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Post by rihannsu on Mar 11, 2012 21:45:44 GMT -5
If it was the paid venture, which I believe as well, who determines the next: 1. who he goes with 2. if he's allowed to get waisted or not 3. the type of appearance (he played his music, right) 4. and to my utter horror, what he will serve the photographers with. I mean, did he make out w/ Sauli because he was paid to do so, to get photographed like that ? I linked him to my post and he says that the GM told him it was not a paid appearance. Eh, who knows. Doesn't surprise me, I kind of think Adam would not necessarily be comfortable with those pay for show deals. I'm sure he probably did some when 19 was managing him but I would think he might see this more along the lines of supporting his community. The club gets the exposure from him being there and he gets the chance to test his songs. Kind of like when he said he didn't get paid for all those photo shoots and they were done for exposure. I honestly think he is a hot enough property that he could get paid for those shoots if he demanded it. I know with U2 if they interviewed with magazines and the photos were just candid shots no money changed hands but for more formal stylized shoots they did get something extra. A couple of the mags they did confirmed this. |
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Post by adamme on Mar 11, 2012 21:45:48 GMT -5
Thanks for that post, NoAngel to clarify things. You are a great representative to explain that Glamberts aren't dangerous, just passionate. ;D I do disagree with him, though, about the hotel being disclosed. I can't recall if I've ever seen that. Maybe it is a DC thing? And what he said about other fans getting to see him because of that, just kind of proved the point, right? Yep.. as much as annoying the paps are I don't think they disclose celebs hotels or where they're staying. I think Tobby tweeted that there's a line he shouldn't cross, that they don't do it in Hollywood and they don't do it in DC. Toby annoys me all the time when he act like he knows about Adam fans and trying to be the voice of us but this one I agree with him. |
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Post by hoopla1 on Mar 11, 2012 21:46:05 GMT -5
ETA: Thanks, NoAngel. Poor guy. Stung by a horde of angry Glamberts. I was checking his @ replies both right after he posted and this morning and I think both he and Toby were greatly exaggerating the 'horde of angry glamberts'. There were two or three 'huh are you trying to start something?' comments, and several 'lol, no that's his boyfriend' ones, but not a pile-on IMHO. LOL, rabbit, I did exactly the same thing and it was FAR from a horde--I didn't see ONE angry or rude comment, just some corrections. Maybe it seemed like a lot of comments to him compared to other celebs he's tweeted about--but it was NOTHIN' by Glambert standards.  And Aleksandra, re your paid appearance questions, I can't imagine a club would require him to do anything but SHOW UP-- with whomever he wants -- and do whatever he wants. I can't believe anyone would tell him how much to drink or whether to "make out" or not. If they did, I'm sure he'd laugh his ass off. And there's no photographic evidence that he made out with Sauli last night, either. Tweeters SAID he did, but I'd like pic proof! ;D They'd been apart long enough, I'd think that'd come naturally.  ETA: Rabbit, what happened to your post?  |
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Post by rad1109 on Mar 11, 2012 21:47:25 GMT -5
I linked him to my post and he says that the GM told him it was not a paid appearance. Eh, who knows. Doesn't surprise me, I kind of think Adam would not necessarily be comfortable with those pay for show deals. I'm sure he probably did some when 19 was managing him but I would think he might see this more along the lines of supporting his community. The club gets the exposure from him being there and he gets the chance to test his songs. Kind of like when he said he didn't get paid for all those photo shoots and they were done for exposure. I honestly think he is a hot enough property that he could get paid for those shoots if he demanded it. I know with U2 if they interviewed with magazines and the photos were just candid shots no money changed hands but for more formal stylized shoots they did get something extra. A couple of the mags they did confirmed this. Do we think Adam went rogue with his songs? |
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Post by adamme on Mar 11, 2012 21:47:40 GMT -5
Are we thinking the awesome climb towards the top for BTIKM MV in the UK might be at least somewhat powered by curiosity on the part of UK fans with respect to "who is this guy that is playing with Queen?" And once they see that vid, well, resistance is futile. ;D  ;D ;D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D But Adam also did a lot of UK promo and ChartTV showed his GNT video.... so maybe a combination of them. ;D |
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Post by nica575 on Mar 11, 2012 21:50:01 GMT -5
I was checking his @ replies both right after he posted and this morning and I think both he and Toby were greatly exaggerating the 'horde of angry glamberts'. There were two or three 'huh are you trying to start something?' comments, and several 'lol, no that's his boyfriend' ones, but not a pile-on IMHO. LOL I do notice these 'reporter' are very sensitive on twitter. Then they get defensive, say something nasty and start a storm. At one point I kind of thought TK and this guy were one & the same.....still wonder. On the other hand, I cannot believe after all this time the angry glamberts have not learned not to engage. I do think it is much, much better and therefore am surprised, but it get them more hits & RTs. I wonder if the papz/reporter vs fans scenarios like these play themselves out in every fandom... I am thinking that the "reporters" should be used to this stuff...Is there anything "special" in our reaction that other fandoms do not display? |
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Post by Guest on Mar 11, 2012 21:51:51 GMT -5
I was checking his @ replies both right after he posted and this morning and I think both he and Toby were greatly exaggerating the 'horde of angry glamberts'. There were two or three 'huh are you trying to start something?' comments, and several 'lol, no that's his boyfriend' ones, but not a pile-on IMHO. LOL I do notice these 'reporter' are very sensitive on twitter. Then they get defensive, say something nasty and start a storm. At one point I kind of thought TK and this guy were one & the same.....still wonder. On the other hand, I cannot believe after all this time the angry glamberts have not learned not to engage. I do think it is much, much better and therefore am surprised, but it get them more hits & RTs. I see this as fans over invested in Adam's private life. Twitter is a place infested with all sort of delusional culprit and twitterland itself become more colorful than the Paps. |
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Post by rihannsu on Mar 11, 2012 21:52:42 GMT -5
Doesn't surprise me, I kind of think Adam would not necessarily be comfortable with those pay for show deals. I'm sure he probably did some when 19 was managing him but I would think he might see this more along the lines of supporting his community. The club gets the exposure from him being there and he gets the chance to test his songs. Kind of like when he said he didn't get paid for all those photo shoots and they were done for exposure. I honestly think he is a hot enough property that he could get paid for those shoots if he demanded it. I know with U2 if they interviewed with magazines and the photos were just candid shots no money changed hands but for more formal stylized shoots they did get something extra. A couple of the mags they did confirmed this. Do we think Adam went rogue with his songs? Uhm, I don't think so but what does that have to do with whether he was paid to go to the club or not? |
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Post by myspencer50 on Mar 11, 2012 21:53:38 GMT -5
So there ya go. My take-- the celeb game is a business like any other. I'm sure Adam's club appearance was a paid venture, and getting seen/papped is part and parcel of it. Goes with the territory, and Adam (and we) are mostly lucky that he's a hoopla magnet and people care enough to put him in the gossip rags. As we know to our sorrow, Adam can stay under the radar and out of sight when he wants to. Last night wasn't one of those times. If it was the paid venture, which I believe as well, who determines the next: 1. who he goes with 2. if he's allowed to get waisted or not 3. the type of appearance (he played his music, right) 4. and to my utter horror, what he will serve the photographers with. I mean, did he make out w/ Sauli because he was paid to do so, to get photographed like that ? Pretty sure he just has to show up and be friendly. |
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Post by rad1109 on Mar 11, 2012 21:54:04 GMT -5
Do we think Adam went rogue with his songs? Uhm, I don't think so but what does that have to do with whether he was paid to go to the club or not? LOL, not a thing! |
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Post by rabbitrabbit on Mar 11, 2012 21:56:24 GMT -5
Are we thinking the awesome climb towards the top for BTIKM MV in the UK might be at least somewhat powered by curiosity on the part of UK fans with respect to "who is this guy that is playing with Queen?" And once they see that vid, well, resistance is futile. ;D ;D ;D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D But Adam also did a lot of UK promo and ChartTV showed his GNT video.... so maybe a combination of them. ;D My guess is it's a) primarily this fanbase buying because they just noticed it was for sale. b) secondarily due to Chartshow TV airing the video (and other UK TV vid airings. c) I don't know if it necessarily takes a huge number of sales to drive a video up the itunes list, since I would guess a lot smaller proportion of those are bought than itunes tracks --- still it's awesome! ETA: lol I deleted my early post because I realized that perceptions are pretty subjective. |
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Post by Guest on Mar 11, 2012 21:59:13 GMT -5
Are we thinking the awesome climb towards the top for BTIKM MV in the UK might be at least somewhat powered by curiosity on the part of UK fans with respect to "who is this guy that is playing with Queen?" And once they see that vid, well, resistance is futile. ;D ;D ;D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D But Adam also did a lot of UK promo and ChartTV showed his GNT video.... so maybe a combination of them. ;D Maybe the leak of new songs also a factor, good timing though. |
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